CUOMO: Senator McConnell is saying, hey, I think it's time to vote on the aid...
CUOMO: ... and whether or not you give it. That's a non-military measure that could make a difference in a situation where now we see Mubarak is now in a hospital.
OBAMA: Right. Well...
CUOMO: Whatever that means.
OBAMA: You know, my sense is with -- with Egypt is that the aid itself may not reverse what the interim government does. But I think what most Americans would say is that we have to be very careful about being seen as aiding and abetting actions that we think run contrary to our values and our ideals.
So what we're doing right now is doing a full evaluation of the U.S.-Egyptian relationship. We care deeply about the Egyptian people. This is a partnership that's been very important to us, in part because of the peace treaty with Israel and the work that's been done to deal with the Sinai.
But there's no -- there's no doubt that we can't return to business as usual, given what's happened. There was a space right after Mr. Morsy was removed in which we did a lot of heavy lifting and a lot of diplomatic work to try to encourage the military to move in a path of reconciliation. They did not take that opportunity.
It was worth it for us to try that, despite folks who wanted more immediate black-and-white action or statements, because ultimately what we want is a good outcome there. But there's no doubt that, at this point, we've got to take a look and see, what's in the long-term interests of the Egyptian people? What's in the long-term interests of the United States
CUOMO: Is it safe to say that we have a shorter time frame now, in terms of what the U.S. can use as a period of decision...
CUOMO: ... in Syria and Egypt?
CUOMO: It's a more abbreviated timeframe now?
CUOMO: To come back home, because you could make the argument that the most perilous situation for the president of the United States exists in Washington, D.C., right? You have had a very difficult legislative session that you've had to deal with down there.
OBAMA: Well, there hasn't been a legislative session as far as I can tell.
CUOMO: Well, right, if -- I guess if you're going to judge it on the basis of past legislation, you could...
CUOMO: But there's been a lot going on. That's...
OBAMA: There's been a lot of talk.
CUOMO: There's been a lot of talking going on. That's what the place is about these days. When they get back in session...
CUOMO: ... do you believe you know the way to get things done for the American people so that we don't have another shutdown of the government, which effectively punishes everybody else, except the lawmakers?
OBAMA: There is a very simple way of doing this, which is the Senate passed a budget and the House passed a budget. And, you know, maybe you're not old enough to remember "Schoolhouse Rock," but...